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025 — Direktlink
13.07.2012, 00:19 Uhr
graham newell



Here is another picture of the J.D.White Colossus
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026 — Direktlink
13.07.2012, 20:07 Uhr
graham newell




Zitat:
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Hello, here are a couple more pictures of the handover


http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/5732021024/in/set-72157627525978240
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/5806108492/in/set-72157627525978240

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027 — Direktlink
13.07.2012, 20:12 Uhr
graham newell




Zitat:
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Hello, here are a couple more pictures of the handover, These two pictures are probably the best picures taken at the Coles works I have


http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/5732021024/in/set-72157627525978240
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/5806108492/in/set-72157627525978240


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028 — Direktlink
13.07.2012, 23:21 Uhr
graham newell



Here is another picture of the Colossus working at night, the J.D.White machine was the first one built, but was originally intended for Sparrows. Sparrows pulled out of the deal to buy the crane when it suffered structural damage on test, after being redesigned, rebuilt and uprated, this machine was the outcome
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029 — Direktlink
14.07.2012, 12:23 Uhr
Hendrik
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Graham, you are a star! Thanks a lot.

Is it correct that the Colossus was built in Darlington? If yes, was the testing facility also there and which other Coles cranes were manufactured in Darlington as well (rather than in Sunderland)?

Cheers, Hendrik
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030 — Direktlink
17.07.2012, 00:07 Uhr
graham newell



Hi Hendrik,
Glad you like the pictures, it is nice to share them with other people who have the same intrests, the Coles Colossus has been one of my all time favourites for a long time.
It is very sad they only built 5 of these amazing machines and photographs of any of them are extreamly rare.
Yes they did build the Colossus in Darlington and I believe it was tested there, but all the other plants, ie,Sunderland Grantham and Glazebury all tested there own machines I believe.
The other cranes that were built there were the range of Coles Hydramobiles.
Cheers ,
Graham
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031 — Direktlink
17.07.2012, 00:17 Uhr
graham newell



Here are a couple more pictures in my collection



I am not sure but I don't think the link for this picture is working , I will try it again , sorry if you have already seen it.
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032 — Direktlink
21.07.2012, 00:02 Uhr
graham newell



Here is a photo of the Colossus on test showing a 250 ton test load, which I have only just posted in my photostream on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/7594023136/in/photostream

Here is the ill-fated Sparrows machine rigged in port tower configuration
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/7600056072/in/photostream/
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033 — Direktlink
23.07.2012, 01:08 Uhr
graham newell



The next picture of the Colossus is a great photo of the true width of the vehicle. the width of the machine was probably one of it's major drawbacks in attracting customers


The next picture is rather intresting. There were two Coles Colossus machines in the UK, the ill-fated Sparrows machine which became the J.D.White crane, which was also the first off the production line, the second machine belonged to R.G.Stuart, part of the Hewden Stuart group of companies. As you will see the name on the crane says Stanley Davies, this is not correct, but I suspect it was a Stanley Davies job and the picture was touched up with their name on the side of the crane.
The picture is also intresting in that it was only half of the overall story of this particular lift as both Coles Colossus machines, the R.G.Stuart and the J.D.White machines were used in a tandem lift. I am not sure if this ever happened again.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62532775@N03/6201361051/in/set-72157626601782415
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034 — Direktlink
23.07.2012, 20:53 Uhr
Hendrik
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Can we put together a list with the original deliveries?

- J.D. White (UK, planned as Sparrows)
- R.G. Stewart (UK)
- Senn (Switzerland)

Any more???

cheers, hendrik
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035 — Direktlink
23.07.2012, 21:11 Uhr
BUZ



White > ?
Stuart > Hewden-Stuart > ?
Senn > SaudiArabia > Pakistan
only this three units were built.

and second-hand:
-Bridge Marine/AUS > Boom/AUS
-Pakistan, second unit

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036 — Direktlink
23.07.2012, 23:51 Uhr
graham newell



Hi Hendrik And Buz,
Hopefully here is the answer
There were 5 Coles Colossus 6000 cranes built.

no 1 - J.D.White.(ill fated Sparrows) lifting capacity 200 tons
no 2 - R.G.Stuart .........................lifting capacity 200 tons
no 3 - Senn AG ............................lifting capacity 200 or 250 tons
no 4 - manchester Liners................lifting capacity 200 or 250 tons
no 5 - Marine Board Of Hobbart.........lifting capacity 200 or 250 tons

They were given lifting duties to BS 1775 = 75%
Therefore a 200 ton capacity had to lift 250 tons
and a 250 ton capacity had to lift 300 tons safely.

The cranes were built at a cost of £250,000 each

Of the 5 cranes built 3 still exsist, 2 in Pakistan and one in Austrailia.

The Manchester Liners crane and the Marine Board of Hobbart Tasmania were both port tower configuration for lifting containers at the dockside.

The Marine Board Of Hobbart Tasmania crane also had a main boom built for it, which later became the Boon crane and then Bridge Marine.

The J.D.White machine fell off a dockside wall and into the water, this machine was written off

Hope this helps with the history of the crane
Best regards
Graham
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037 — Direktlink
24.07.2012, 23:25 Uhr
graham newell



Hello , here is a picture of the Colossus leaving the Darlington factory clearly showing the last removable axle.The no plate GXG 217L can be seen quite clearly after the sixth axle and also on the rear of the removable axle

The pictures already posted in this tread of the machine working in Pakistan show it operate in traveling order without the last axle in place, but for this to happen the boom root needs to be removed as well and the crane body needs to be rotated 180 degrees

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038 — Direktlink
25.07.2012, 20:03 Uhr
BUZ



Graham,

is this the right company:
http://www.manchesterliners.co.uk

anything more about this company:
Marine Board Of Hobbart

When and where was the JD White unit "working" in the water? Before GW&S?


best regards
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039 — Direktlink
25.07.2012, 23:17 Uhr
Hendrik
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Graham, Many thanks for sharing all this information with us!!

Regarding the crane of the Marine Board of Hobart/Tasmania it is really really difficult to find suitable information in the net, not to mention pictures......There is a copy of a Tasmanian newspaper from 28th March, 1977, which is quite interesting:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1300&dat=19770328&id=XfJUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jJIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6717,8291650

According to this, the delivery of the Colossus must have taken place short before 1977.




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040 — Direktlink
25.07.2012, 23:32 Uhr
graham newell



Hi Buz
yes I believe that is probably the correct company, if I remember rightly the Colossus was exported through southampton docks and went to somewhere like Bermuda, but owned by Manchester Liners, because there was no way of loading containers at this destination.
I will try and find out if Bermuda was the exact location it was sent to.

As for the Marine Board Of Hobbart Tasmania I am afraid I know nothing about it at all, I have a photo of the Colossus being loaded / unloaded from a ship with this enscription on the front of the cab front.
Sadly the photo is one i have aquired and I am not sure I can post it in the tread, but I may risk it

When the Colossus fell into the water it was completing sea defence work with large rock pieces, again location I can find out.This happened before it ever got a chance to become a Grayston, White & Sparrow machine.

Best regards
Graham
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041 — Direktlink
25.07.2012, 23:39 Uhr
graham newell



Hi Hendrik

Great information and conformation that this actually was the Colossus that is now the Bridge Marine crane

Best regards
Graham
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042 — Direktlink
26.07.2012, 00:01 Uhr
graham newell



Here is the comparrison to the J.D.White machine. The last axle has been removed and the crane body has been rotated 180 degrees and the boom root removed
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043 — Direktlink
26.07.2012, 08:15 Uhr
Sebastian Suchanek
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Zitat:
BUZ postete
is this the right company:
http://www.manchesterliners.co.uk

To me, this doesn't look like the homepage of the actual company, but like some sort of fan site of former employees of Manchester Liners...


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Sebastian
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044 — Direktlink
26.07.2012, 11:30 Uhr
Hendrik
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By the way, here some pictures of the SENN Colossus 6000.....it shows the construction of the Swiss "Glatt-Zentrum":

https://www.hansebubeforum.de/showtopic.php?threadid=11915&pagenum=1#131758

Actually same building where we just discuss the actual TC 2800-1 job: https://www.hansebubeforum.de/showtopic.php?threadid=15996&pagenum=5#374822

Best regards

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045 — Direktlink
26.07.2012, 22:07 Uhr
Hendrik
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This seems to be the Bermuda crane (Manchester Liners): http://www.flickr.com/photos/64938323@N07/6811318347/

Here's a nice little photo stream of the Bridge Marine crane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5tqgazAIrQ

best regards, hendrik

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046 — Direktlink
26.07.2012, 22:19 Uhr
graham newell



Nice one Hendrik,
I forgot Arie posted this photo of the Colossus in his photostream, with the last axle removed the crane looks completely different.
This machine must be one of the cranes in Pakistan.
This would also confirm that the two cranes that operated in the UK are the two cranes that are now not with us.

Best regards, Graham
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047 — Direktlink
27.07.2012, 01:48 Uhr
graham newell



Here are a couple more views, one of the J.D.White machine as a close up and a slightly different view of the Sparrows Colossus before structural failure at Darlington.The Sparrows picture is quite remarkable in that it is colour, I am still hoping to find a better colour picture than this one day and that this photo is actually a Polaroid instant shot.


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048 — Direktlink
27.07.2012, 22:29 Uhr
Hendrik
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Once again: Tasmania, Mar 30th, 1976:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1300&dat=19760330&id=k_xUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=V5IDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5792,7534054



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049 — Direktlink
28.07.2012, 17:08 Uhr
graham newell



The outriggers and jacking points are of intrest to the Colossus. When the 1st crane was destined for Sparrows the crane was only rated at 170 tons capacity. When it suffered structural failure in the area of the Slew Ring and Sparrows pulled out of the deal to buy the crane, it ended up being redesigned and uprated and allthough it could pick up 250 tons it was rated at 200 tons.
The position of the rear outrigger was altered in the redesign, it was moved to the same high position as the front outrigger.
Some of the jacking points were altered as well, the front position use to be under the cab, but on the production models they were moved. They ended up between the first and second axles.
The picture below clearly shows the old position

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