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000 — Direktlink 17.01.2011, 21:49 Uhr CranesEtc Mehr fotos: Cranes Etc. Gruß Ian -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cranes-Etc/116609998401077 http://www.Twitter.com/CranesEtc http://YouTube.com/CranesEtcTV Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

001 — Direktlink 17.01.2011, 22:10 Uhr Menzitowoc Bitte in den Krane in London Thread verschieben. Ist Bishopsgate tower Baustelle. -- Mal was ganz Anderes: Marion Walking Dragline aus Constructor (Holzbaukasten) Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

002 — Direktlink 14.05.2012, 13:21 Uhr Menzitowoc Hallo, in Sydney am Projekt "Central Park" (ehemals "Frasers Broadway") werden eine ganze Anzahl an Favelle Favco Kranen eingesetzt (was in Australien nicht verwunderlich ist) unter anderem auch der weltgrößte Wippauslegerkran Favelle Favco M2480D von Marr. Das ist schon sehr ungewöhnlich, dass so ein Gigant jetzt schon bei einem recht gewöhnlichen Hochhausprojekt zum Einsatz kommt. Wer sich mal einen kleinen Überblick über die Dimensionen dieses Krangiganten verschaffen will, kann mal auf den Fotos von User "Brisbane" schauen, wie der Kran im Depot zerlegt aussieht. Gruß Christoph -- Mal was ganz Anderes: Marion Walking Dragline aus Constructor (Holzbaukasten) Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

003 — Direktlink 29.10.2012, 22:57 Uhr Wee Heavy Sad to report as it happens right now in New York http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/crane-collapse-manhattan-article-1.1194790 It does not look good Wee Heavy Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

004 — Direktlink 29.10.2012, 23:07 Uhr Mondeo-Oberfranken Yeah, indeed. If all the hurricane-stuff is over I wanna see how they secure and dismantle that crane. I think the only way is to do it with a helicopter. Could get interesting. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

005 — Direktlink 29.10.2012, 23:35 Uhr Wee Heavy Zitat: Mondeo-Oberfranken postete Yeah, indeed. If all the hurricane-stuff is over I wanna see how they secure and dismantle that crane. I think the only way is to do it with a helicopter. Could get interesting. Apologies - I have just noticed you made a posting earlier on about the crane The front jib will weigh at least 6500 Kgs - I am not sure if Helicopters are allowed to lift this weight, even Military Helicopters. I do not wish the worst but if the wind gets any stronger it might end up in the street below anyway and save the riggers a lot of risk separating the jib. I can see what is left of the crane will be removed with a Derrick and that is standard practice these days Gruß Wee Heavy Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

006 — Direktlink 29.10.2012, 23:44 Uhr Mondeo-Oberfranken Ah okay, the derrick-option wasn't coming to my mind yet. I don't think that the crane will totally collapse. Looks pretty secure to me, if you can speak of "secure" after such an incident. Good thing is that there probably won't be much replacement to be done. Looks like that only jib needs to be replaced. Could be wrong though. mfg chris Dieser Post wurde am 29.10.2012 um 23:44 Uhr von Mondeo-Oberfranken editiert. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

007 — Direktlink 30.10.2012, 08:03 Uhr Menzitowoc Hello Wee Heavy, thank you for posting this information. In this thread of the Skcscrapercity-Forum, you can see the crane before the storm. Discussion about this sad incident start on pape 231 of the thread. I think also, they will dismantle the damaged tower crane with a derrick crane. Even a helicopter would be strong enough to lift the crashed boom, it will be far too dangerous to work over the city in stay in the air over a long period of time (think of the time you need to cut off the boom). Even in less populated regions, working with helicopers is really dangerous and only the last option to choose. Best regards Christoph -- Mal was ganz Anderes: Marion Walking Dragline aus Constructor (Holzbaukasten) Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

008 — Direktlink 30.10.2012, 08:25 Uhr Wee Heavy Zitat: Menzitowoc postete Hello Wee Heavy, thank you for posting this information. In this thread of the Skcscrapercity-Forum, you can see the crane before the storm. Discussion about this sad incident start on pape 231 of the thread. I think also, they will dismantle the damaged tower crane with a derrick crane. Even a helicopter would be strong enough to lift the crashed boom, it will be far too dangerous to work over the city in stay in the air over a long period of time (think of the time you need to cut off the boom). Even in less populated regions, working with helicopers is really dangerous and only the last option to choose. Best regards Christoph Guten Morgen Christoph I agree entirely I could not even see the insurance policy required being obtained. Gruß Wee Heavy Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

009 — Direktlink 31.10.2012, 06:27 Uhr Gast:linaprin Gäste http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeS8YwqSFVc&feature=player_embedded Dieser Post wurde am 31.10.2012 um 06:31 Uhr von linaprin editiert. (Gast) Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

010 — Direktlink 31.10.2012, 09:17 Uhr Menzitowoc Hello, to have better information for discussion an analysis, I post here a link to the data sheet of the Favelle Favco M440D tower crane, which boom flipped over at the One57 construction Project in New York. http://www.excursion-powered.com/lommasite/loadcharts/M440D_Product_Guide.pdf There you can find also dimensions and weightdata of the boom, boom inserts and so on. The internet side of the rental company "New York Crane Rental" gives no interesting information about the cranes (The also own the Favelle Favco M760 D II cranes for the WTC side) Regards Christoph -- Mal was ganz Anderes: Marion Walking Dragline aus Constructor (Holzbaukasten) Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

011 — Direktlink 01.11.2012, 09:05 Uhr kim Hello. Ohh! i saw this picture in TV. thanks for vdeo. Why they don't used Derrick crane before storm comming? So sad. Best regards, kim, Thailand, -- Towercrane operator Towercrane 1:50 scale model. Hevy transport 1:87 scale model. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, INTER-LIFTING Scale model https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552019892048 Dieser Post wurde am 01.11.2012 um 09:11 Uhr von kim editiert. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

012 — Direktlink 01.11.2012, 09:54 Uhr Mondeo-Oberfranken I think if the crane would've been turned like 180° it would still stand there without any harm. mfg chris Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

013 — Direktlink 01.11.2012, 17:00 Uhr Dave http://enr.construction.com/products/equipment/2012/1031-Dangling-Crane-Was-WeatherVaned-Contractor-Says.asp It looks like the crane is now free to rotate in the wind. The article is very informative. -- Greetings from Chicago Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

014 — Direktlink 02.11.2012, 13:08 Uhr kim Hello, Thanks for the link..Dave! I hope to see picture there are remove this crane soon! i think mabe they setup the new Favelle Favco by derrick crane on the rooftop. And remove it. (Sorry for my english). Best regards, kim, Thailand, -- Towercrane operator Towercrane 1:50 scale model. Hevy transport 1:87 scale model. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, INTER-LIFTING Scale model https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552019892048 Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

015 — Direktlink 02.11.2012, 21:50 Uhr Dave Edit: image removed. Please respect copyrights! I don't know who took this picture, but it was in this forum: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=776476&page=241 Post # 4810 Interesting! I hope someone can explain why there is that cable, or cord, or whatever, connected across the slewing gear. There is no explanation for the guy to be standing there without protection for his head. -- Greetings from Chicago Dieser Post wurde am 03.11.2012 um 16:01 Uhr von Sebastian Suchanek editiert. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

016 — Direktlink 02.11.2012, 22:30 Uhr Mondeo-Oberfranken Interesting to see this from nearby now! The machinery deck looks still intact to me. The A-frame seems to have bended a little. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

017 — Direktlink 08.11.2012, 22:25 Uhr Hendrik Moderator Hier ist das entsprechende Filmchen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84HOXzflMd4&feature=share gruß hendrik Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

018 — Direktlink 27.11.2012, 16:42 Uhr Dave M600D fire and collapse -- Greetings from Chicago Dieser Post wurde am 27.11.2012 um 16:43 Uhr von Dave editiert. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

019 — Direktlink 27.11.2012, 19:39 Uhr Wee Heavy Zitat: Dave postete M600D fire and collapse Dave, More reports from Oz via UK networks http://www.aol.co.uk/video/crane-catches-fire-and-collapses-in-sydney-australia/517549096/ http://www.constructionenquirer.com/2012/11/27/dramatic-sydney-crane-collapse-caught-on-video/ Gruß Wee Heavy Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

020 — Direktlink 27.11.2012, 19:58 Uhr Wee Heavy Zitat: Dave postete Edit: image removed. Please respect copyrights! I don't know who took this picture, but it was in this forum: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=776476&page=241 Post # 4810 Interesting! I hope someone can explain why there is that cable, or cord, or whatever, connected across the slewing gear. There is no explanation for the guy to be standing there without protection for his head. Damaged Favco scheduled for removal next week according to: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/11/26/removal_of_collapsed_one57_crane_will_begin_next_week.php Not the best of times for Lend Lease or Favco Gruß Wee Heavy Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

021 — Direktlink 29.11.2012, 07:47 Uhr Menzitowoc Zitat: Dave postete M600D fire and collapse Hello, I saw the video and I´wondering, why the boom crashed down. In the video, it looks like the luffing rope was OK and unwind from the luffing drum. In the comments and the written discriptions, they say, the rope itself snapped or broke. If the rope unwind from the drum, this would mean, the brakes failed due to the heat of the fire. Does someone know, how the Favelle Favco safety system is designed? If the drum is hold only by a hydraulic actuated disc brake or hydraulic holding valves in the winch motor system, this would look not very safe for my. In my opion, the winch should be hold by a mechanical system - e.g. ratchet and pawl - which is failsafe and the boom comes down not until the wire rope is damaged by the heat of the fire. Best regards Christoph -- Mal was ganz Anderes: Marion Walking Dragline aus Constructor (Holzbaukasten) Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

022 — Direktlink 29.11.2012, 19:41 Uhr Ralf Neumann Zitat: Menzitowoc postete Zitat: Dave postete M600D fire and collapse Hello, I saw the video and I´wondering, why the boom crashed down. In the video, it looks like the luffing rope was OK and unwind from the luffing drum. In the comments and the written discriptions, they say, the rope itself snapped or broke. If the rope unwind from the drum, this would mean, the brakes failed due to the heat of the fire. Does someone know, how the Favelle Favco safety system is designed? If the drum is hold only by a hydraulic actuated disc brake or hydraulic holding valves in the winch motor system, this would look not very safe for my. In my opion, the winch should be hold by a mechanical system - e.g. ratchet and pawl - which is failsafe and the boom comes down not until the wire rope is damaged by the heat of the fire. Best regards Christoph Hier kann man sehen (sec. 4) was passierte. http://www.aol.co.uk/video/crane-catches-fire-and-collapses-in-sydney-australia/517549096/ Hat alles nichts mit Bremsversagen der Winde zu tun. Die Wärme des Brandes führt zum ausglühen und somit versagen des Seiles. -- Gruß Ralf Neumann Das (C) der veröffentlichten Bilder liegt bei mir. Ironie & Sarkasmus helfen mir zuweilen die Dummheit anderer zu ertragen. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

023 — Direktlink 30.11.2012, 08:00 Uhr Menzitowoc Hallo Ralf, vielen Dank für genau diesen Link, den hatte ich vorher nicht gesehen. Hier ist klar, das wirklich das Seil gerissen ist. Wie sieht es mit der Brandgefahr eigentlich bei normalen elekrisch betriebenen Turmkranen aus? Ich kenn dazu nur den Film, wo ein Peiner/Pecco Kran durch einen Großbrand auf der darunterliegenden Baustelle in Brand gerät und die Kunstoffteile der Kabine Feuer fangen. Ansonsten ist doch die Brandlast dort ehr gering: Kabelbaum und etwas Getriebeöl; vielleicht noch das Fett im Drehkranz. Gruß Christoph -- Mal was ganz Anderes: Marion Walking Dragline aus Constructor (Holzbaukasten) Dieser Post wurde am 30.11.2012 um 09:39 Uhr von Menzitowoc editiert. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

024 — Direktlink 02.12.2012, 16:27 Uhr Ralf Neumann Fotos von der Bergung des besagten Favelle Favco (nach unten scrollen). http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=242154&page=79 -- Gruß Ralf Neumann Das (C) der veröffentlichten Bilder liegt bei mir. Ironie & Sarkasmus helfen mir zuweilen die Dummheit anderer zu ertragen. Profil || Private Message || Suche Zitatantwort || Editieren || Löschen || IP

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