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000 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 11:10 Uhr
Bernard Haste
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It would seem then that over 500t we have
1 K10001 1971 1000t AKR GERMANY
2 K6000 1973 600t AKR GERMANY
3 TC 4000 1979 800T J D WHITE UK
4 AK 680 1979 850T HEWDEN STUART UK
5 AK 680 1980 850T SCOTTS UK
6 TC 4000 1980 800T SPARROWS UK
7 MK 1000 1980 1000T SPARROWS UK
8 TC 4000 1981? 800T NICHOLS USA
9 AK850 1982 ?? SCHMIDBAUER GERMANY
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Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t. And Gottwald were relatively late in getting a crane of this general capacity into the market.Anyone able to add anything or correct this list if it is wrong?
Dieser Post wurde am 29.11.2009 um 22:03 Uhr von Hendrik editiert. |
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001 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 12:56 Uhr
kerst
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What about the Sparrows Gottwald MK 500? I am not sure if it was rated 400 or 500 ton? It must have been the biggest at its time in Britain.
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002 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 13:17 Uhr
Sebastian Suchanek
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What about the Sparrows Gottwald MK 500? |
To the best of my knowledge, there was no Gottwlad MK500. Sparrows bought a MK600 (rated at 400 metric tons) though.
For more information on large Gottwald cranes have a look at our FAQ.
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003 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 13:59 Uhr
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Hi sebastian,
You are right, It was a MK 600, but the Sparrows brochure calls it a 500 ton crane. It was towed by a Scammel tractor. I do not know when Sparrows bought this crane, but it must have been in the 70's.
Sparrows also had a Demag CC4000, probably from 1981 and a Manitowoc 4600 Ringer with a 600 short ton capacity.
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004 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 15:18 Uhr
Bernard Haste
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I was only talking about lorry mounted cranes over 500t rated capacity. That is the point at which I begin to find cranes of great interest!
The Sparrows MK600-89 was rated as a 500t crane and was delivered in 1971. I agree it would have been the biggest in the UK at the time. However on two counts I don`t include it as it is not over 500t and it was not a lorry mounted crane but mounted on a trailer pulled by a Scammel that itself went on to have an interesting history in heavy haulage in the UK. I believe it was disposed of at about the time the larger Gottwald was delivered but am not sure at what date the disposal happened.
I also have not yet started trying to sort out the chronology of lattice crawler cranes over 500t. Anyone want to attempt this? |
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005 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 20:12 Uhr
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Hi Bernard,
I think a better description of the MK 600 is "mobile crane" (MK). As you write the crane is towed like a trailer from job to job, but on the job it is self-propelled. The MK 600 can actually move fully rigged on the jobsite. 4 out of its 8 axles are driven through a 6-speed gearbox from the upperworks engine with a top speed of (I think) about 6 km/hour.
I know for sure that this crane worked in Texas for a while under the Sparrows name. There is an italian company, which owns a very similar crane, possibly the old Sparrows crane. It would be interesting to know if this is so!
As you probably know the MK1000 was upgraded later to the MK1500.
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006 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 20:33 Uhr
Ralf Neumann
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There is an italian company, which owns a very similar crane, possibly the old Sparrows crane.
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Hi Kerst,
the name of the company is Tilli-Walter/Caserta.
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007 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 20:44 Uhr
Hendrik
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Below is a pic of the Sparrows unit. I think the right spelling was MK 600-88 but I'm not 100% sure.
(Whereas the Toense crane was a MK 600-68 because of its 2 x 3 axle Scheuerle units.)
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008 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 21:34 Uhr
Hendrik
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| Zitat: | | Bernard Haste postete Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t. |
The main driver for UK's request for big cranes was - simply speaking - the North Sea oil. Look at the big refineries and petrochemical factories in the North of the UK which were all built as from end of the 70-ies.
(However....more important....the big cranes were all German built   )
Dieser Post wurde am 16.11.2005 um 09:01 Uhr von Hendrik editiert. |
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009 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 22:39 Uhr
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| Zitat: | Hendrik postete
| Zitat: | | Bernard Haste postete Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t. |
The main driver for UK's request for big cranes was - simply speaking - the North Sea oil. Look at the big refineries and petrochemical factories in the North of the UK which were all built end of the 70-ies.
(However....more important....the big cranes were all German built ) |
Hi Hendrik,
You are right, there were a lot of German built cranes involved, but not only.
There were also Americans and Manitowocs. In the 1993 there were 2 American Series 1100 with Skyhorse working in Middlesborough, together with some Manitowocs.
Dieser Post wurde am 15.11.2005 um 22:41 Uhr von kerst editiert. |
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010 — Direktlink
27.11.2005, 16:23 Uhr
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Here are 2 pictures of a American 1100 Series with SkyHorse in Middlesborough. There is a Manitowoc 4100 in the background.
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011 — Direktlink
27.11.2005, 18:52 Uhr
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| Zitat: | Bernard Haste postete
It would seem then that over 500t we have
1 K10001 1971 1000t AKR GERMANY
2 K6000 1973 600t AKR GERMANY
3 TC 4000 1979 800T J D WHITE UK
4 AK 680 1979 850T HEWDEN STUART UK
5 AK 680 1980 850T SCOTTS UK
6 TC 4000 1980 800T SPARROWS UK
7 MK 1000 1980 1000T SPARROWS UK
8 TC 4000 1981? 800T NICHOLS USA
9 AK850 1982 ?? SCHMIDBAUER GERMANY
ETC.
Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t. And Gottwald were relatively late in getting a crane of this general capacity into the market.Anyone able to add anything or correct this list if it is wrong? |
2 pieces of AK 912 GT-ML (1.200 t):
Al Jaber > Interlift > Al Jaber
Walter Wright > Heavy Lift > Equipos del Centro
one AK 912-103 ML (1.200 t) with Al Jaber
a second unit of AK 850:
AK 850-104 with Toense > Bracht > Interlift (upgratet to AK 912) > Al Jaber > Baldwins > ALE
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