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15.11.2005, 11:10 Uhr
Bernard Haste



It would seem then that over 500t we have

1 K10001 1971 1000t AKR GERMANY
2 K6000 1973 600t AKR GERMANY
3 TC 4000 1979 800T J D WHITE UK
4 AK 680 1979 850T HEWDEN STUART UK
5 AK 680 1980 850T SCOTTS UK
6 TC 4000 1980 800T SPARROWS UK
7 MK 1000 1980 1000T SPARROWS UK
8 TC 4000 1981? 800T NICHOLS USA
9 AK850 1982 ?? SCHMIDBAUER GERMANY
ETC.


Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t. And Gottwald were relatively late in getting a crane of this general capacity into the market.Anyone able to add anything or correct this list if it is wrong?

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001 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 12:56 Uhr
kerst



What about the Sparrows Gottwald MK 500? I am not sure if it was rated 400 or 500 ton? It must have been the biggest at its time in Britain.

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002 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 13:17 Uhr
Sebastian Suchanek
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What about the Sparrows Gottwald MK 500?

To the best of my knowledge, there was no Gottwlad MK500. Sparrows bought a MK600 (rated at 400 metric tons) though.

For more information on large Gottwald cranes have a look at our FAQ.


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003 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 13:59 Uhr
kerst



Hi sebastian,

You are right, It was a MK 600, but the Sparrows brochure calls it a 500 ton crane. It was towed by a Scammel tractor. I do not know when Sparrows bought this crane, but it must have been in the 70's.
Sparrows also had a Demag CC4000, probably from 1981 and a Manitowoc 4600 Ringer with a 600 short ton capacity.

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004 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 15:18 Uhr
Bernard Haste



I was only talking about lorry mounted cranes over 500t rated capacity. That is the point at which I begin to find cranes of great interest!

The Sparrows MK600-89 was rated as a 500t crane and was delivered in 1971. I agree it would have been the biggest in the UK at the time. However on two counts I don`t include it as it is not over 500t and it was not a lorry mounted crane but mounted on a trailer pulled by a Scammel that itself went on to have an interesting history in heavy haulage in the UK. I believe it was disposed of at about the time the larger Gottwald was delivered but am not sure at what date the disposal happened.

I also have not yet started trying to sort out the chronology of lattice crawler cranes over 500t. Anyone want to attempt this?
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005 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 20:12 Uhr
kerst



Hi Bernard,

I think a better description of the MK 600 is "mobile crane" (MK). As you write the crane is towed like a trailer from job to job, but on the job it is self-propelled. The MK 600 can actually move fully rigged on the jobsite. 4 out of its 8 axles are driven through a 6-speed gearbox from the upperworks engine with a top speed of (I think) about 6 km/hour.
I know for sure that this crane worked in Texas for a while under the Sparrows name. There is an italian company, which owns a very similar crane, possibly the old Sparrows crane. It would be interesting to know if this is so!
As you probably know the MK1000 was upgraded later to the MK1500.

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15.11.2005, 20:33 Uhr
Ralf Neumann

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There is an italian company, which owns a very similar crane, possibly the old Sparrows crane.
Kerst

Hi Kerst,

the name of the company is Tilli-Walter/Caserta.
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007 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 20:44 Uhr
Hendrik
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Below is a pic of the Sparrows unit. I think the right spelling was MK 600-88 but I'm not 100% sure.

(Whereas the Toense crane was a MK 600-68 because of its 2 x 3 axle Scheuerle units.)

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15.11.2005, 21:34 Uhr
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Zitat:
Bernard Haste postete Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t.

The main driver for UK's request for big cranes was - simply speaking - the North Sea oil. Look at the big refineries and petrochemical factories in the North of the UK which were all built as from end of the 70-ies.

(However....more important....the big cranes were all German built )

Dieser Post wurde am 16.11.2005 um 09:01 Uhr von Hendrik editiert.
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009 — Direktlink
15.11.2005, 22:39 Uhr
kerst




Zitat:
Hendrik postete

Zitat:
Bernard Haste postete Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t.

The main driver for UK's request for big cranes was - simply speaking - the North Sea oil. Look at the big refineries and petrochemical factories in the North of the UK which were all built end of the 70-ies.

(However....more important....the big cranes were all German built )

Hi Hendrik,

You are right, there were a lot of German built cranes involved, but not only.
There were also Americans and Manitowocs. In the 1993 there were 2 American Series 1100 with Skyhorse working in Middlesborough, together with some Manitowocs.

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010 — Direktlink
27.11.2005, 16:23 Uhr
kerst



Here are 2 pictures of a American 1100 Series with SkyHorse in Middlesborough. There is a Manitowoc 4100 in the background.

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011 — Direktlink
27.11.2005, 18:52 Uhr
BUZ




Zitat:
Bernard Haste postete
It would seem then that over 500t we have

1 K10001 1971 1000t AKR GERMANY
2 K6000 1973 600t AKR GERMANY
3 TC 4000 1979 800T J D WHITE UK
4 AK 680 1979 850T HEWDEN STUART UK
5 AK 680 1980 850T SCOTTS UK
6 TC 4000 1980 800T SPARROWS UK
7 MK 1000 1980 1000T SPARROWS UK
8 TC 4000 1981? 800T NICHOLS USA
9 AK850 1982 ?? SCHMIDBAUER GERMANY
ETC.


Amazing how the UK got so many of the really heavy cranes so early. I always thought that the German market took most of the early cranes over 500t. And Gottwald were relatively late in getting a crane of this general capacity into the market.Anyone able to add anything or correct this list if it is wrong?

2 pieces of AK 912 GT-ML (1.200 t):
Al Jaber > Interlift > Al Jaber
Walter Wright > Heavy Lift > Equipos del Centro

one AK 912-103 ML (1.200 t) with Al Jaber

a second unit of AK 850:
AK 850-104 with Toense > Bracht > Interlift (upgratet to AK 912) > Al Jaber > Baldwins > ALE


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